In this episode I interview Julie, who is a life coach. We talk about who should get their life coached, we talk about the ego and energy. And topics such as qigong and breathing come up too. If you are thinking of getting your life coached then don’t miss out on this episode
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Interviewer: On this week’s episode of LifeShot, we’ve got Julie, who’s a life-coach from Florida, USA. Julie will be talking to us about our energy, our ego and why you might want your life coached. Welcome to the LifeShot podcast, we’ve got Julie Langlois with us, she is a life-coach from Florida, USA. Julie, welcome!
Interviewee: Thank you so much. Thanks for having me.
Interviewer: Good to have you on the show. We are going to talk today about why would you want your life coached. So I think that’s what we might call the title of this show. Why you might want your life coached. So you are a life-coach, what does it actually mean? Why don’t you tell us what it is?
[00:00:58] Interviewee: So I debated about that wording for a long time, life-coach. It’s a hard thing, when someone comes to you and says “I need some coaching in my life”, it is generally a mentorship. Looking for some advice or some mentorship in a specific area of your life. But I come from a slightly different angle, I’m like a psychiatrist who is nit-picking at your thoughts and bringing up the past. Life-coaches essentially will take you from where you are now and work with that as your baseline. And then go up from that place. Looking back at the past is important, but it’s more about “Okay, this is where we are now and where we are going to. What do you want from your life? What do you want to achieve? What are your core values, belief systems and what will help you get to where you want to be fastest?”.
Interviewer: What are you doing personally? Is it a calling, that you felt “Hey, I should be doing this”? What led you down to the path to start something like this?
[00:02:22] Interviewee: I have been mentored myself. And I have been to one or two life-coaches in my life time. And I’d say, the journey began when I was in my mid-twenties. I did these mindfulness workshops. The first one I did was a week-long experience, called ‘The Human Touch’. And it sounds very airy, but the guy said “Okay, this is how the mind works”, getting you to realize that you are not your thoughts and that you get to choose your thoughts. And he had a whole 5-day process in getting you to the point where you are, where you crushed your belief systems that have been added to you by everyone around you. And then from that space you start to develop exactly who you actually want to be, rather than this react of personality. So that’s where it began. And then I have been through some very difficult periods in my life, where I have reached out to life-coaches.
Interviewer: So could you tell us about those? Because it’s probably good for our listeners to hear that. Why was it that you had to go to a life-coach? Why did you feel like you had to go?
[00:04:11] Interviewee: I think the first time that I went to a life-coach was when I was in South-Africa. And I was working for my family business. Starting out in university, my dad took me inside and said “Jules, I’d really like you to work for the company”. And I am so grateful that I did, I learned so much from him. But after three years, I had this nagging voice in my head saying “No, I am really not happy. This is not my passion, I don’t feel like I enjoy what I am doing”. And a lot of people feel that in their own jobs. I started having a feeling [00:05:01] after an additional three years working in the family business. The company wasn’t in a very strong financial position. Often you can do a job if you are getting a good pay check, and you can ignore that burning desire to find something that actually ignites you. Because you are comfortable. You are getting paid and you are financially secure. But at the end of six years working in the company, I didn’t feel financially secure. I had a lot guilt knowing that, and I felt a huge responsibility in the part that I played to get the company where it was. I think I completely misjudged the amount of responsibility that I should have been carrying on my shoulders. And I just was in such a bad place and I sat down with my dad and mom and I had a very emotional weekend, my skin was bad, my body was reacting to the stress in a huge way. At that stage I was very emotional, I would cry easily, I was weak. I didn’t know who I was, I didn’t know what I wanted to do and I didn’t have a lot of money. So I said to dad, “Listen, I have this desire to be a life-coach. I have a great passion for people and I think this is something I want to do”. And he gave me great advice. He said “Well, why don’t I assist you in the next six weeks or so. And you can go see a life-coach and see if this is something you really want to do with your life”. And within six weeks, the lady that I was working with got me to see life in a completely different perspective. How I was living, how I was creating my life. The things that I was doing that would help me to get to where I wanted to be. And from that experience, from the place that I was to where I had come out of that coaching process, I was a completely different person. And that led me to my next journey in life and working on super yachts and traveling all over the world. That experience fundamentally changed my life.
Interviewer: It is amazing sometimes, how you meet a person, either a friend or like you said, you went to see a life-coach and just that one encounter could change the whole course of your life going forward. I always find that quite fascinating. It’s not every time you meet somebody that your life is going to drastically change. But there are certain people, you think back and you think “If I hadn’t met that guy or if I hadn’t spoken to that person, then I wouldn’t be here today”, right? It’s just amazing. I’m sure everybody has got an example of that in their life.
[00:08:26] Interviewee: Exactly. I listen to a lot of these amazing guys, podcast guys, and they say that the people that you spend your time with, help mould your life going forward. So have a look at who you are spending most of your time with in your life, the closest five or six people. I believe in that in some regard, but I think such a responsibility and leading our life to where ever we want to go and that you can’t really blame others. To where you want to go, enjoying life any less.
Interviewer: What I want to talk to you about next, you talk a lot about energy. I see a lot lately that a lot of things are connected. The universe is connected in many ways. We are all made out of the same stardust, as they put it. It’s almost like something, like you say, you meet someone and your life changes. It’s almost like fate, in a way. But let’s not talk about fate just yet. But I want to get your view on energy. So you use that quite a lot. What is energy and why is it important?
[00:09:50] Interviewee: That’s a good question. I think the word energy means many things. But the first one, the most practical one that everyone can essentially relate to, is energy to do things. When you wake up in the morning, do you have energy to get up and can you accomplish all the things in your life that you need to? It’s an important word for me, because I’ve often felt a lack of energy. So my excuse to often not accomplish a task is “I’m tired, I don’t have enough energy to do this”.
Interviewer: It’s kind of a go-to excuse, isn’t it? “Yeah, I’m tired”.
[00:10:38] Interviewee: Exactly. And I feel sorry for myself for not doing it. And those are the same things that are going to completely change my life. So energy, in the form that I study it, it also is an invisible source. So it is something that is around us and that we feel. And what’s interesting, a lot of the work that I study, especially the Chinese-based approach to energy-healing, a moving meditational wellness practice, Chi Gong, that practice itself gives you a very good idea of what different energies feel like. So you also have the Chinese coming up with different elements in life.
Interviewer: Like water, air… What are those elements?
[00:11:43] Interviewee: It’s air, water, fire, wood and metal. Essentially, they believe, in that culture, that we’re all at some form of amalgamation of all the elements. But it’s like the astrological thoughts, you have your base element. So let’s just take fire for example. If your base element is fire, you’ll still have all the other elements within you. But that is your leading call guiding.
Interviewer: Does everyone have a different element? Not everyone is based on fire?
[00:12:28] Interviewee: Definitely, it’s sounds very airy fairy, but the Chinese do such a good job of bringing it back down to earth and it’s directly relatable to that thing. So if you think of fire, you’d think of passion and anger and life of the party and someone who walks into the room and really lights things up, right? So we all know someone like that, but they can fly off the handle really quickly, especially if they are tired and things aren’t going their way. And that’s just a cool way to think about it. And we all know someone who’s a bit of an airhead. Some people might be an air element. And you know that their head is going to be up in the clouds. You have to bring those creatives back to the point. Because they will be playing up in the sky, and you need them to try to get their tasks done. That relates back to the practice in which you can feel that energy. I don’t know if you have ever walked around one day and really felt like you were walking on clouds. You just feel like you are floating around sometimes. Or sometimes you burn up, like you have a lot of energy and you feel a bit of heat within you. It’s funny, we all experience these things, but we have never been shown or given a tool to really link what it means to what it feels like. Energy is many things. But it’s essentially what kind of fuels the body in, fuels the soul. And within my coaching, I use a meditative practice to help and balance out the different energies, so that it releases blockages in the body, which builds life energy and people can really walk into their day with more life energy. So they are able to accomplish more.
Interviewer: Hearing this sometimes, it might be hard for me to attain, for example. Like if I listen to Wim Hoff, he’s like “Never get sick again and save your life. Just follow these steps. Cold showers, meditation”. And then I am like “Cool, I am going to do it”. And then you think “Will I ever get there? How can he get injected with a virus and not get sick?”. That is what he went through. And you talk about getting these energies and stuff. So how attainable is it for somebody to do it? Is it hard? Does it just take a little bit of practice? Is it like exercise? What is it?
[00:15:39] Interviewee: In my experience, because I am going through the process and I go through it every day, it really is super simple. It comes down to really being in tune with your body. It’s almost like a holistic approach to your life, or just an understanding of your body, how it works. It doesn’t even require much thinking. So it’s very much a feeling thing. I don’t know if you have heard the phrase “What you focus on expands”?
Interviewer: No. What you focus on, is what you get? That’s what I have heard.
[00:16:23] Interviewee: That is exactly it. That is the same thing, yeah. So when you are trying to not eat sugar…
Interviewer: Then you probably eat sugar, right?
Interviewee: More sugar than you normally eat, generally.
Interviewer: Because you are thinking about sugar.
Interviewer: I’ve been there.
Interviewee: Me too. You just have to think about nice vegetables and then those will come into your mind.
Interviewer: Yeah, yeah. Vegetables, vegetables, come to me!
Interviewee: Basically… I’ve lost my train of thought now. What were we talking about?
Interviewer: It was how easy it was for people to attain. You said it was about feeling, isn’t it?
[00:17:07] Interviewee: Yeah. For example meditation. When you meditate, you actually start to feel your body. You start to really listen to it in a way. And by listening to eat, I just mean notice. So let’s say for example, your hand gets goose bumps or pins and needles for example. It’s the very practical thing of actually just feeling that.
Interviewer: Or feeling a pain in your kidneys or something. You are sitting there and think “Oh, I have a little pain there”. So it is noticing those things, right?
Interviewer: It is noticing what is happening at the moment, in the body.
[00:17:50] Interviewee: Yeah, and then often… I want you to try this. So the next time you have a headache, I want you to sit down and instead of taking a pain killer, I want you to sit there and feel your headache. Try to pinpoint where it is at. So really think about “Okay, the pain is there”. And then put a size to it, put a colour to it. And then do the process again. Go back to where it is and go through that process. And what you will often find, is that it completely goes away. So often, what you focus on expands. And I feel like when you focus on the body, you are giving it a chance to heal itself. Whereas, we are so used to taking drugs and whatever we can to get rid of pain, when in fact, your body is telling you something. It’s saying “Hang on, there is something wrong there that you need to look at”.
Interviewer: You need to address it, yeah. I want to ask you about what you think about global consciousness. I listen to a Franciscan monk, his name is Richard Rohr. He talks about units of consciousness and it’s an idea of our consciousness being united as a human race. Neural particles come together to form molecules and molecules come together to form atoms. And so, we as humans come together to form something as well. I was wondering if you have ever heard of that. Because we have got social consciousness, we’ve got personal consciousness. And then this idea of global consciousness. Is that something that you’ve thought about or something that you teach?
[00:19:41] Interviewee: In essence, what makes me believe in some form of social or group or global consciousness, is how people will say things that other people are thinking. So let’s say you and your partner, you’ve been spending a lot of time together, sometimes you have that field experience where you were like “I knew you were going to say that” or “I knew you’d be here”, or whatever the case may be. I don’t think those things are coincidental. I believe that thoughts become things. If you thought something badly about someone else, for example, I believe that in a way they can feel it. And it affects them.
Interviewer: So it is important to watch what you are thinking then, is it? In a way?
[00:20:39] Interviewee: I think that if everyone took note of what they were thinking, you can’t control what you are thinking. Initially, you have to correct yourself. So when you start becoming conscious of your thoughts, then you know “I am not that thought”. And then you can choose to change that thought. And then you can say “Okay, I know my mind automatically generated this thought of how I hate beetroot”. And then you can say “Actually, I do like beetroot. It’s so good for me and I am willing to try it”. So it’s almost having a conversation with your thought process. And a lot people haven’t separated themselves from “I can choose my thoughts” to “I am my thoughts”. The first step is becoming aware that you are not your thoughts and that you can control them. And then once you can control them, you can really start to create a positive environment where you can consider others. and you can consider the planet.
Interviewer: Does that make a person less inward-focused and more focused on others? As themselves, but also as others in the world?
[00:22:05] Interviewee: I think so, hugely. I think your goals can then align with the way to go. And then you are not just me-focused. Because if you are thinking about yourself all the time, you are not going to care that you’ve thrown a plastic bottle into the ocean. Because chances are that you are not going to be seeing it again. But someone else will or kill an animal in the ocean. Once you move from being just focused on your own interests all the time, then we can work towards having more of a global awareness.
Interviewer: That leads me on to another question, which is that I am on a particular journey at the moment. I grew up as a Christian and then a few years ago, my world rocked a little bit. And I really had to start searching again, as it were. My journey at the moment is quite… I am going through a season where I am looking more inward at the moment. But I think that is an important season at the moment, to look inward and say “What do I think? What is this all about? What is my body saying to me? Where is my soul, where is my spirit? What is going on?”. And what I want to ask you, I wrote it down here, I just want to make sure that I get the question out. You have to search yourself and look inward sometimes, but it can be seen as maybe selfish with your loved ones. I am spending all this time doing my breathing exercises, I spend a whole hour in the morning and it’s all about “Clint is now going for his cold shower”. What is the balance? Do you think it’s necessary that we do that? How do we balance that with our loved ones? Should we say “Listen, I am just going through a bit of a period now, can you just give me a little space?”. I don’t know.
[00:24:10] Interviewee: That is a really cool question. Because I have been through one or two difficult times on the yacht that I was working on. And I was dealing with a crew of nine, they really feel your absence or they feel it when you’re there. When you are in a bad mood, they’ll pick it up.
Interviewer: You can see a person in a bad mood straight away, can you?
Interviewee: Yeah, and it can change your mood.
Interviewer: And a good mood.
[00:24:43] Interviewee: It can be contagious if you are not aware. I think it’s important to communicate, always. You can make it a little bit lighter and say “Listen, I am going through some thing and I need this space. Is it okay if you can give me this time?”. The other thing is, these practices that you are doing, they are really beneficial to your body and they are beneficial to who you are and in your ability to contribute long-term to your family. Anyone that is struggling with their family, you can say “I could be out drinking and smoking and doing lots of things that are really bad for me. But this journey that I am going on is a beautiful self-discovery journey and I am really figuring things out about myself. And why don’t you join me?”. You can make up for it maybe at another stage and say “Listen, you have given me all this time as a dad and someone who is also trying to contribute to this family at the same time with the kids”. Maybe you can give back in another way. I think it’s wonderful. I think the journey will only enrich your life.
Interviewer: It’s an exciting journey. And I am really looking forward to more of where I can actually… I am going through something and I want to be able to maybe share that with somebody else on the other end. And it is difficult to share with your most closest ones. And I am sure you maybe experience this. But it is difficult to convince them. Because they know who you are, in a sense. You know? But it’s an exciting journey, definitely. I think it’s leading me towards being a more well-rounded person. Whereas in the past, I was quite… Because I am choleric as a personality, so I am probably a bit more of a fire, with the Chi Gong. And so, I’m quite like ‘shoot from the hip’ and I’m ‘go go go’. And so I think I am a little bit more calm, a little bit more compassionate. I think I am feeling that. And also at the same time, a bit more like ‘go and get it’, but in a different way. Like “Stop making excuses, just do the thing you know you are supposed to do”. So that has been really good. On the same topic, about the ego. I’d like to talk a bit about the ego. Because I think that some days I feel on top of the world. So I will be walking through town and I feel quite confident about myself. And then, on other days, I might walk through town and I feel quite low about myself and I look at other people and I think “I’m just nothing compared to them”. Or sometimes I walk through town and maybe I am a bit elevated about myself but maybe I am feeling good, maybe I am feeling bad. But I think the ego has a little role to play there. This front that I am putting up to the world, it’s feeling good right now. And on other days, this ego is not feeling so good. But I think that the ego is not something that we should totally get rid of, but at some point, we should move away from it and realize that we are not our ego. But I wanted to ask you what your thoughts on ego are. And how important is it to have it? And not to have it at times?
[00:28:47] Interviewee: I think the question here is, how do you feel authentic? If you are trying to get rid of your ego, it’s like sifting through it, like “What’s my ego? And what part of it is actually true? What part of it is the real me? The deeper part of me that is authentic?”. And another thing you have to be careful for is comparison as well. They say comparison is the mother of all evil. And it really is. I think if you are comparing yourself from one day to another, or if you are looking at yourself compared to others, you are always going to be left wanting. A very powerful thing to use with this, to more develop who you are, is using intention. If you start living with more intention in your life, you are going to be guiding that ego essentially. Guiding your authentic self. Let’s say that at the moment you have realised that you have an ego. What I would say to you is, the first thing I want you to do is to get out of your head. Because once you are out of your head, you can actually start to live from your intuition and who you are. You can listen to your gut. You can do all those wonderful things. And notice what you are reacting to. Often, you’ll have a bad day, because something happened or you had a thought. So, I would say, try and pin-point what that thought was. Try and see who pushed your button.
Interviewer: What do you do with it once you know that? Because let’s say you realise “Okay, it’s because I had a fight with my better half”. What do you do with that?
[00:30:57] Interviewee: You have a fight with your better half. You can choose to carry that fight with you for the rest of the day or you can drop it. Tell her you love her. Come to some common ground and move forward. And I think the biggest thing with that is also realising that you are breaking habits with the ego as well. So you are going to fall back into that habit at some stage. And then you just have to breathe through it, bring yourself back to the ground. Take a deep breath and say “Okay, what do I actually want to produce here? How do I want to be in this world? How do I want to feel?”.
Interviewer: Taking control of your emotions and thoughts?
[00:31:40] Interviewee: It’s also labelling the feeling. So we are very good, as humans, at labelling feelings. So let’s say you feel your heart’s racing and your skin is hot. That can be mistaken for anxiety. But it could also be excitement. So how are you looking at that reaction? Often when you are in a fearful situation, it’s actually your body giving you everything you need that you’d have in the same situation if you were really excited. So look at those feelings. And the cool thing is, you can label them however you’d like to. If you have this stuff welling up inside of you, you can say “You know what? I know I am scared, because this has changed and I am excited about this”. And then you can try and use your mind and your ego to put a spin on it and just say “Actually, I love my partner for her opinions and the fact that she’s strong in her belief systems. Do I have to change her?”. So you become aware of what is pushing your buttons, how do you want to label your feelings, taking a deep breath, really look at who you want to be in the world and then working towards that every day. Because it’s a daily journey. And some days, you’ll get it right. And some days you won’t. This is a lifetime journey. It’s not over in a day. You can’t get it right in a day.
Interviewer: With you being a life-coach, how long do people come and see you? If I needed help to do the things that you are saying right now, do I need to see a life-coach once a week for a year? Do I have a six-week stint? What do you suggest for someone who might be thinking about “Maybe I should get a life-coach, I need a bit of one-on-one”?
[00:34:00] Interviewee: Initially, I work with a six- to ten-week program. That gives me enough time to figure out really what their intention is. Because initially, when people go into some form of – I know, I experienced it – if you go into coaching, when you have committed to it, you find out “It actually wasn’t about the thing I went into coaching for, it was something completely different”. The mentorship could be a lifetime’s worth. My aim is to give someone enough solid grounding for them to walk out and make those decisions on their own. So I wouldn’t want to see someone for a lifetime. I’d want them to come in, get that strength and understanding of who they are and what they want in their life. And then just see them go off and concur the world. That’s my aim.
Interviewer: It’s brilliant. I suppose different people would have… Someone would take a lot away in six weeks. And some people might say “I might need a bit longer”. So I suppose it’s different for different people. You probably see that. I think people are at different stages in their lives and it’s interesting to see how some people might receive something. You teach something in the same way to two different people. You’ll get two different responses from those people. And that is quite an interesting dynamic. It’s like “I am giving the same message, but someone is using it in a different way”. I just find that quite fascinating. I was just telling my wife yesterday. I read a book the other day by that Franciscan monk, Richard Rohr, and it was really earth shattering to me. And I gave it to a friend and he said “Oh yeah, it’s not that out there”. And I was like “Okay, well I thought it was way out there”. So some people might think this life-coaching and stuff is way out there. And some others might think “It’s probably just what I need”. And other people might say “I don’t need life-coaching”. But maybe in a few years they do. It is interesting to think about the human mind and where it is taking us. And not just the mind, but our souls and our spirits are leading us into the different places. That’s interesting. I think there is a trend now for life-coaching, isn’t there? Do you see that there is an increase in the number of life-coaches? And why do you think that is?
[00:36:48] Interviewee: Oh my gosh, there is such an increase in life-coaches. It’s unbelievable. There’s some form of social global consciousness that’s heading that way. I think a lot of the messages that Tony Robbins and Oprah and the internet, everybody has access to all of this information now. And I think humans are really searching for something better. I think we all fundamentally know that we deserve a good, happy, wonderful life. And I think a lot of people are going to life-coaches and being inspired to share. A lot of life-coaches have experienced what I have. This incredible feeling of having direction, having purpose. And doing something with significance. And I think that significance has a big pull for a lot of people.
Interviewer: Yeah. And you’ve been through the depths. So you have been down to hell as it were and you’ve come back and you were hurting and you got healed and now you are helping others to heal, right?
[00:38:16] Interviewee: Yeah, I think that’s a big part of it. It’s definitely not for everyone. Some people are inspired by interior decorating and being creative. And I just have this deep longing to connect with human beings. And that’s really what drives me. And the beautiful thing about coaching is, as a coach, I am merely just a guide. The person does all the work themselves. And I guide them on to the infinite time they put into the homework that I give them all. The introspection that they do is what they get out of it. It’s like you can lead a horse to water but only the horse can drink. I got a bit side-tracked on the question there. But for me, it’s about connecting with people. And I think a lot of people are feeling the need to connect.
Interviewer: We are going to end it of in a few minutes. But just a few last closing things. If we said why you might need your life coached, what type of people would need – not necessarily a life-coach – or let’s say they do. Because you are a life-coach. Let’s talk about that. What type of people do you think most need a life-coach and what are the different levels? So some people might need a life-coach just for a few weeks. Some people might need one for longer. Are they people that are down and out? Or could it be executives, to be able to get an edge? Why would they need a life-coach?
[00:40:15] Interviewee: There are so many different reasons. Some people are just looking for someone, an external person, to talk to. It could just be conversations about situations that they want to sound out to somebody else. So that’s one reason. Another reason would be, someone was dealing with very stressful situations. As a life-coach, you can really help give someone a perspective on how someone is dealing with anxiety. Give them tools to sort out or to really handle situations in a way that is going to be healthy for them. Personally, I have experienced loss in my family. And I know how beneficial it is to talk to someone else who has also experienced loss. Or who can lend an ear for that healing to happen. There are so many reasons. When I did my first coaching, I did eight weeks. But by the eighth week, I actually thought “You know what? I’m done. I’m actually done with coaching”. Whether it’s a career change, that’s another thing. Are you actually doing what you love to do? Leadership, are you being an effective leader? Do you feel like you are contributing towards a team in a way that is meaningful, that will build the team and create a sustainable future for your company?
Interviewer: So just trying to be a better ‘you’, a better version of yourself?
[00:42:14] Interviewee: Exactly. Someone looking to do some introspection, really figuring out who they are and what they want in life. That’s the biggest reason, I would say that someone would come see me.
Interviewer: Excellent. Julie, before you go today, where are you going to be in the next five years? Are you still going to be in Florida, USA? Are you going to be life-coaching there? Are you going to work nationally, or just in your area? What are your plans?
[00:42:52] Interviewee: Initially, my plan is to target the yachting industry. I am currently working on board of a super yacht as a stewardess, on top of being a life-coach. And the beautiful thing about my yachting job is, it takes me all over the world. For the next five years or so, I aim to fulfil my business and really start to become more accessible to people online. Most of my work will be online. So it will be Skype interviews or Skype sessions. Everyone is on WhatsApp now and Facebook. So basically, I have an online platform. And the clients that I have worked with are based in Johannesburg and on other boats and I have only probably worked with one or two in the same location that I am in, so I can actually see them face to face. So I am hoping to build something awesome in the next five years. Definitely not be sailing the seas still. But we’ll see what happens. I am really excited about the future, where ever it takes me.
Interviewer: Good. We hope to have you back on the show at some point. And maybe we could see a part two of your life as a life-coach. And give some more advice for our listeners then. But Julie Langlois, it has been great having you on the show. And we wish you the very best there in Florida and in your travels around the world. Thanks for being on the show. Do you have any last thoughts that want to leave our listeners? Maybe a nugget of information? Or advice or something like that?
[00:44:47] Interviewee: One last thing is, just do whatever makes you happy. Just spend one week following happiness. That is my one piece of advice. If you wondered what made you happy, this will be incredible.
Interviewer: So I want to go out and just drive my dirt-bike now for a week. Is that okay?
Interviewee: Do it!
Interviewer: I am just going to phone my boss quickly, where is my phone? Alright Julie, have a good day!
Interviewee: Thanks Clint!
Interviewer: See you around.